Which engine is better to buy an Audi A5? How to buy a beauty and not be left without pants: disadvantages of a used Audi A5. Japanese engines in Russian conditions
Test drive September 27, 2009 Winning bet on “five” (A5 Cabriolet (2009))The test drive took place in Monte Carlo. In the evening I wandered into the casino and put a chip on “5”. Won. Alas, not me, but some gentleman at the next table. Well, okay. But a more interesting “five” was waiting for me in the parking lot: the new Audi A5 convertible. A net win for those who understand cars.
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Test drive August 31, 2007 Love without calculation (A5 3.2) A measly ten kilometers separates me from the Italian town of Verona. They say that the house in which Shakespeare's Juliet supposedly lived has been preserved, and her statue is installed nearby. According to legend, if you hold on to the stone statue of the heroine of a medieval tragedy, you will have good luck in love all your life. But I didn't buy the tempting offer. Today I have a different talisman. New coupe "Audi A5". The first two-door "Audi" in the dimensions of a "family" car in a good ten years in a completely new design and with a noticeably changed chassis. I'd rather hold on to his wing. And may good luck accompany me on Italian roads.
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The Audi A5 debuted at the Geneva Motor Show in 2007. Initially, two body types were offered: 2-door coupe and convertible. The success of the model contributed to the expansion of the range. In two years German manufacturer showed a 4-door Sportback hatchback.
The car was built on the platform that underpinned the Audi A4 B8. The silhouette was designed by Satoshi Wada under the direction of the famous Italian designer Walter de Silva. In 2007-2010, the line was supplemented with two sports versions S5 and RS5. In 2011, the Audi A5 was updated. Changes affected the headlights, front bumper, and rear lights.
The A5 was produced in Ingolstadt (liftback, coupe) and in Neckarsulm (convertible). It earned 5 stars in crash tests.
Engines
Gasoline:
R4 1.8 TFSI (160-170 hp)
R4 2.0 TFSI (180-211 hp)
V6 3.0 TFSI (272 hp)
V6 3.0 TFSI (333 hp) - S5
3.2 FSI V6 (265 hp)
4.2 FSI V8 (354-450 hp) - S5 and RS5
Diesel:
R4 2.0 TDI CR (136,143,170-177 hp)
V6 2.7 TDI CR (190 hp)
V6 3.0 TDI CR (240 hp)
When purchasing a car with the four-ring logo, customers expect trouble-free operation. Unfortunately, almost each of the power units has its drawbacks.
Most often, the 1.8 TFSI caused trouble due to problems with the timing chain tensioner. If in advanced cases valves met the pistons, the owner would face large expenses. However, this can be avoided by noticing the defect in time and replacing the faulty chain tensioner. In addition, ignition coils often failed.
The most common engine among gasoline units is the 2.0 TFSI, which suffers from chain stretching. If the problem is not detected in a timely manner, then everything will end just as sadly as with the 1.8 TFSI.
But the biggest problem with the 1.8 and 2.0 TFSI units is excessive oil consumption. There is only one way out - replacing the piston (about 100-150 thousand rubles). In 2012, modernized turbo engines began to be installed, which are free of oil. However, another unpleasant defect began to occur - scuffing on the camshaft support bracket and the camshaft itself. For repairs you have to shell out more than 100,000 rubles.
In the 3.2-liter V6 and 4.2 V8, the ignition coils often burn out. However, these units are considered to be practically trouble-free. However, if you do not update the oil for a long time or do not replace the spray nozzles on time (7,000 rubles each), then scuffs may appear on the cylinder walls. For overhaul you will need about 300-400 thousand rubles.
In addition, after 200,000 km, timing chains can stretch. They are located at the rear of the engine, so to replace the timing drive you have to remove the engine. The costs will be 100-150 thousand rubles.
Another problem with engines of the FSI and TFSI family is the appearance of carbon deposits on the valves, in the channels of the cylinder head and in the exhaust manifold. This results in loss of power. Sometimes the fuel pump fails.
Diesel engines also do not protect against troubles. The 3.0 TDI is known for problems with the timing chain drive, or more precisely with its upper tensioner (extraordinary noise appears). Before 2010, 4 chains were installed, and after that there were already 2. Repair costs for a 2.7 TDI are comparable to a three-liter diesel engine. The most reliable among diesel engines is the 2.0 TDI CR (not to be confused with the 2.0 TDI PD).
Unfortunately, from year to year there are more and more diesel Audi A5s on the market with faulty auxiliary equipment: particulate filter, dual-mass flywheel and injection system. At the same time, the hydraulic supports of the power unit may also require replacement (5-8 thousand rubles).
Transmission
The Audi A5 range includes the following list of gearboxes: 6-speed manual, 6-speed Tiptronic automatic, 7-band automated S-Tronic and Multitronic CVT.
Don't be too wary of the Multitronic automatic continuously variable transmission. The 0aw variator is quite reliable. However, after 150-200 thousand km, malfunctions of the controller, variator oil pump and chain stretching occur. They will ask for about 100,000 rubles for repairs.
An automated gearbox with two wet-type S-Tronic clutches could hardly last as long. First of all, it suffered from problems with mechatronics (30-40 thousand rubles), which were almost completely eliminated in 2012.
Tiptronic from ZF 6HP28 is perhaps the most reliable of the automatic machines. The need for repairs sometimes arises after 150-200 thousand km. It is necessary to update clutches, gaskets, seals and bushings.
Mechanical clutch resource is about 100-150 thousand km.
Depending on the version, the A5 can be front-wheel drive or all-wheel drive. The elements of the proprietary Quattro all-wheel drive system are quite reliable.
Chassis
As befits a premium luxury car, the Audi A5 is equipped with a multi-link suspension system, both front and rear.
Before purchasing, be sure to check the condition of the suspension. Aluminum levers are too delicate and often require replacement after 80-120 thousand km. Front wheel bearings (4-8 thousand rubles) may begin to hum in the interval of 40-80 thousand km.
Not perfect and steering– Over time, play appears in the rack. In addition, the lower crosspiece of the intermediate steering shaft begins to jam. She is not protected in any way from aggressive external environment. The cross assembly with the shaft is replaced (10-16 thousand rubles). But some services are ready to select an analogue for 500 rubles and replace a worn cross for 2-3 thousand rubles.
After restyling, the hydraulic power steering gave way to an electromechanical one. The electric amplifier is built into the rail. Unfortunately, it sometimes fails. The manufacturer prescribes replacing the rack assembly, which costs more than 100,000 rubles. A refurbished or used rack (30,000 rubles) does not guarantee long-term operation. Only a few specialists manage to repair the amplifier.
Typical faults
Traces of corrosion? This problem does not affect the Audi A5. Any “red spots” are a sign of careless repairs after an accident. Specimens from the USA are especially prone to this.
As you'd expect from a premium car, the Audi A5 has a lot of features on board. electronic systems and gadgets. Most of them are reliable, but some are very capricious.
The most common problem is the MMI multimedia system freezing. Owners also complain of systemic glitches with the Keyless entry system, Audi's Side Assist system that monitors blind spots, and a CD player that refuses to read them.
With age, the multimedia monitor of pre-restyling versions dims. A new monitor is very expensive, but its former brightness can be restored for only 3,000 rubles.
From time to time, the power windows jam and squeak, and then stop working altogether. The cable of the mechanism breaks, which changes along with the trapezoid - 4-6 thousand rubles.
Xenon lamps are not durable. Sometimes the LEDs in the headlights burn out. And after 100-150 thousand km the heater fan may make noise. Problems with heating the interior in the cold season are often caused by a failure of the additional coolant pump.
Conclusion
The Audi A5 Sportback is an excellent alternative to the tired A4 sedan. The coupe and convertible versions are more suitable for those who do not intend to carry passengers on the back seat. Regardless of the body type, the German car is ready to satisfy any desires of even the most demanding customers: big choice powerful engines, excellent driving performance, prestige, rich equipment, elegant design, very high-quality interior trim and many other advantages.
Unfortunately, the A5's design isn't perfect. The disadvantages include serious engine malfunctions, the high cost of purchase and maintenance (in case of repairs), as well as a large number of copies after minor or major accidents.
Technical data Audi A5 (2007-2015)
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5.3 l/100 km |
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30.11.2016
It is one of the most beautiful cars in the entire history of the concern "". Before the appearance of this model, the engineers of the company from Ingolstadt could only offer the Audi TT to car enthusiasts who were looking for a practical sports coupe, at a time when the main competitors (Mercedes and BMW) already had several interesting examples. Many car enthusiasts, when purchasing a car with a logo that consists of four rings, expect trouble-free operation of the car. Unfortunately, the Audi brand has ceased to be the standard for reliability among popular car brands; as a result, when buying a used Audi A5, most owners are faced with a number of problems for which they are completely unprepared.
A little history:
It was first presented at the Geneva Motor Show in 2007. This car is based on the 2003 concept car, which was the first time Audi engineers showed what a powerful and stylish coupe should be like, with outstanding driving performance and a progressive, sophisticated design. The Audi A5 was designed on the basis of the company's popular model at that time - “”, but in its dimensions the new product was significantly superior to its predecessor. Currently, the model is presented in three body modifications - “coupe”, “convertible” and a large five-door “ "SportBack". In addition, there are two charged versions - " S5" And " RS5" In 2011 model line The Audi A5 has undergone a slight restyling, as a result, the already stylish car has become even more sports uniforms. Generally, appearance new items are the result of a competent combination of a sporty silhouette, clearly drawn lines, an expressive frontal appearance and an excellent tail section.
Advantages and disadvantages of a used Audi A5
Traditionally for European models, the Audi A5 has a wide range of petrol (1.8, 2.0, 3.0, 3.2, 4.2, from 160 to 354 hp) and diesel (2.0, 2.7, 3.0, from 136 to 245 hp) powertrains units. Most gasoline engines are members of the TFSI family; the main feature of these power units is that they have increased oil consumption, and the longer the mileage, the more oil has to be added. For example, cars with a mileage of 100,000 km or more have consumption ( not cheap!) oil can be up to 1 liter per 1000 km. To fix the problem, the valve stem seals and rings must be replaced. The most common in the secondary market are units with a volume of 1.8 (164 hp) and 2.0 (180-210 hp) liters; this type of engine was installed on almost all models of the concern “ VAG" These engines have good dynamic performance and low fuel consumption, on average 8-10 liters per 100 km in urban mode.
But there are some drawbacks, most often the ignition coils fail; the signal for the need to replace them will be unstable engine operation and difficulty starting a cold engine. The timing drive is equipped with a metal chain; it is one of the main disadvantages of all car engines. Problems with the chain and tensioners begin closer to 100,000 km, and if you do not contact service in time, fateful meeting valves with pistons and engine overhaul cannot be avoided. The first signs of the need to replace the chain and tensioner will be a metallic ringing after starting a cold engine and a diesel rumble at idle. Another significant drawback is the appearance of carbon deposits on the cylinder head valves and exhaust manifold, as a result, the valves stop opening normally, which leads to loss of power and malfunctions of the power unit.
The 3.2 naturally aspirated engine is considered the most reliable and unpretentious in the line of power units, but you have to pay for reliability with high fuel costs (consumption in the city is 14-17 liters per 100 km). One of the disadvantages of this engine is the short life of the ignition coils. Selection of machines with diesel engines the secondary market is small, and the point here is not their reliability, but the quality of the diesel fuel that we sell and the high cost of maintenance. Among the disadvantages of diesel engines, it is worth noting: rapid failure of the upper timing chain tensioner, the need for frequent replacement of the particulate filter and dual-mass flywheel (every 70-100 thousand km). Also, at of this type engines are very sensitive to the quality of diesel fuel, fuel system, which in our realities rarely lives up to 100,000 km. Most Audi A5 engines are equipped with a turbine. This unit, when used correctly, rarely presents unpleasant surprises; on average, the turbine lasts 200,000 km. 
Transmission
Paired with engines on the Audi A5, a transmission was installed to suit every taste: there is a six-speed manual transmission, a six-speed automatic transmission “ Tiptronic", variable speed drive " Multitronic"and a seven-speed robot" S-tronic" As operating experience has shown, the automatic transmission has proven itself to be the most reliable. In terms of reliability, a manual transmission is in no way inferior to an automatic transmission, but cars with such a transmission are not in great demand on the secondary market.
If we talk about the variator, then, in general, this gearbox is not bad, its biggest drawback is considered to be slow operation, as a result, the dynamic characteristics of a car with such a transmission are significantly underestimated. Also, the disadvantages of the variator include a short service life - 150-180 thousand kilometers. The robotic transmission is an analogue of the Volkswagen DSG transmission; a lot has been said about the reliability of this box, and, unfortunately, reviews about it are mostly negative. This gearbox rarely lasts up to 100,000 km; replacing or repairing the transmission solves the problem for a short time, at 60-80 thousand km.
Salon
As with many premium cars, the manufacturer mainly used high-quality materials to decorate the interior of the A5; the only complaints are the aluminum inserts on the center console and on the doors. The fact is that the inserts are made of cheap plastic and, over time, begin to creak unpleasantly when driving on uneven roads; also, scratches and abrasions quickly appear on it. There are no complaints about the reliability of the interior electrical equipment, only a few of them can spoil the mood a little - the multimedia system freezes, the keyless entry system fails, and the power windows occasionally jam. 
Driving characteristics of a used Audi A5
The Audi A5 is equipped with a multi-link suspension design, this provides good comfort and excellent car handling, but does not provide reliability to the main chassis components. The car has a sporty character, which often provokes drivers to drive aggressively, and in this case, you need to be prepared to fork out money for chassis repairs. Despite the high cost of spare parts, on average, the main suspension components last up to 80,000 km. Traditionally, for most cars, stabilizer struts and bushings are considered consumables and, if used carefully, require replacement every 30-40 thousand kilometers. At 50-60 thousand km the wheel bearings will need to be replaced.
Aluminum levers are considered one of the most expensive suspension parts (the cost of replacing a set of front levers is 700 USD), on average they last 70-90 thousand km. But, if there are no ideal roads in your region, be prepared to change them every 40-60 thousand km. Shock absorbers and support bearings will last 100-120 thousand km. Brake pads have a service life of 50-60 thousand km, brake discs do not last much longer, on average 70-80 thousand km. Also, the steering is not perfect - after 100,000 km, play appears in the rack.
Result:
- a car that combines a bright appearance, good dynamics excellent handling and comfort. But, unfortunately, it does not have the reliability that fans of this brand have become accustomed to over the years. In order to eliminate the main shortcomings, you will have to invest almost a quarter of the cost of a used car, therefore, it is better not to skimp on diagnostics.
Advantages:
- Sporty appearance.
- Acceleration dynamics.
- Quality of interior materials.
- Controllability.
- Comfort.
Flaws:
- TFSI engine oil consumption.
- Low ground clearance (120 mm).
- Unreliable robotic transmission.
- Short service life of most chassis parts.
- High cost of maintenance.
Engine Toyota 5A-F/FE/FHE 1.5 l.
Toyota 5A engine characteristics
| Production | Kamigo Plant Shimoyama Plant Deeside Engine Plant North Plant Tianjin FAW Toyota Engine's Plant No. 1 |
| Engine make | Toyota 5A |
| Years of manufacture | 1987-present |
| Cylinder block material | cast iron |
| Supply system | carburetor/injector |
| Type | in-line |
| Number of cylinders | 4 |
| Valves per cylinder | 4 |
| Piston stroke, mm | 77 |
| Cylinder diameter, mm | 78.7 |
| Compression ratio | 9.8 |
| Engine capacity, cc | 1498 |
| Engine power, hp/rpm | 85/6000
100/5600 105/6000 120/6000 |
| Torque, Nm/rpm | 122/3600
138/4400 131/4800 132/4800 |
| Fuel | 92 |
| Environmental standards | - |
| Engine weight, kg | - |
| Fuel consumption, l/100 km (for Carina) - city - track - mixed. |
6.8 4.0 5.0 |
| Oil consumption, g/1000 km | up to 1000 |
| Engine oil | 5W-30 10W-30 15W-40 20W-50 |
| How much oil is in the engine | 3.0 |
| Oil change carried out, km | 10000
(better 5000) |
| Engine operating temperature, degrees. | - |
| Engine life, thousand km - according to the plant - on practice |
n.d. 300+ |
| Tuning - potential - without loss of resource |
n.d. n.d. |
| The engine was installed | Toyota Corolla Ceres Toyota G Touring Toyota Sprinter Toyota Sprinter Marino Toyota Tercel Toyota Vios FAW Xiali Weizhi |
Engine malfunctions and repairs 5A-F/FE/FHE
The Toyota 5A engine is an analogue of the 4A engine, in which the cylinder diameter is reduced from 81 mm to 78.7 mm, thus obtaining a volume of 1500 cc. Otherwise, we have the same 4A-F/FE/FHE, with all its pros and cons. An ordinary civilian engine, sports versions of the GE/GZE based on the 5A were not developed.
Toyota 5A engine modifications
1. 5A-F - carburetor version, similar to 4A-F with a reduced volume. Compression ratio 9.8, power 85 hp. The engine was in production from 1987 to 1990.
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. 5A-FE - analogue of 4A-FE, is a 5A-F with electronic fuel injection, compression ratio 9.6, power 105 hp. Engine production began in 1987, finished in 2006, after which production was transferred to FAW and is currently equipped with Chinese cars.
3. 5A-FHE - version with a modified cylinder head, different camshafts, slightly modified intake, different exhaust manifold, power increased to 120 hp. In production from 19891 to 1999 and was installed on cars for the domestic Japanese market.
Malfunctions and their causes
The design of the motor is identical to the 4A motor, all those faults that are relevant for 4A also apply to 5A: problems with the distributor, with the lambda probe, with the engine temperature sensor, after which the engine does not start, the speed fluctuates due to a dirty damper, idle sensor progress and so on. There are no hydraulic compensators for 5A, so every 100 thousand we carry out the procedure for adjusting the valves, and after the same mileage we change the timing belt. In general, everything is standard for the A series, full list We look at engine diseases.
Engine tuning Toyota 5A-F/FE/FHE
Chip tuning. Atmo. Turbo
Exactly like with the atmospheric version, the engine will not show anything supernatural. The only thing that makes sense is to bore the cylinders to a diameter of 81 mm, for a 4A-FE piston, thereby we will get a working volume of 1.6 liters and, in fact, a 4A-FE engine, but there is a risk of running into casting defects. You can install a direct-flow exhaust with a 4-2-1 spider, but this will not give anything serious.
Turbine on 5A-FE
Initially, this engine was designed for maximum quiet movement, no sports were envisaged, so any serious tuning will entail the replacement of all standard junk with tuning equipment, and this applies most appropriately to the turbine. The most reasonable option possible is to order a kit for 4A-FE on a small turbine and install it on a standard piston, having previously installed 360cc injectors, a Walbro 255 pump and a direct-flow exhaust on the 51st pipe, we set it up on Abita. This will give up to 140-150 hp, the resource will be greatly reduced. If you want a resource, change the crankshaft, shpg, cut the cylinder head... or swap 4A-GE)).
In 1987, the automotive giant Toyota began work on the release of a new line of power units installed in passenger cars. She received the marking "5A". In this article we will analyze the engine 5AF.E.. During the entire production period, which amounted to 12 years, the power plant was produced in three types of modifications.
They received the following names:
- first generation - 5A-F;
- second generation - 5A-FE;
- third generation - 5A-FHE.
First generation
The power unit with the index 5A-F is distinguished by the presence of a gas distribution mechanism, the design of which provides for the installation of 4 valves per cylinder according to the DOHC scheme. In other words, the engine has two camshafts that move their own set of valves.
This system allows one camshaft to move the intake valves and the other to move the exhaust valves. The valves are driven by pushers. Thanks to the DOHC system, the engines of the Toyota 5A line have high power ratings.
Second generation
The 5A-FE engine is an improved version of the 5A-FE. A major modification was made to the system responsible for injection of the fuel mixture. The end result showed that an electronic fuel injection system called EFI - Electronic Fuel Injection was installed in the engine.
| Model | Body type | Release period | Production market |
| Carina | AT170 | 1990–1992 | Japanese |
| Carina | AT192 | 1992–1996 | Japanese |
| Carina | AT212 | 1996–2001 | Japanese |
| Corolla | AE91 | 1989–1992 | Japanese |
| Corolla | AE100 | 1991–2001 | Japanese |
| Corolla | AE110 | 1995–2000 | Japanese |
| Corolla Ceres | AE100 | 1992–1998 | Japanese |
| Corona | AT170 | 1989–1992 | Japanese |
| Soluna | AL50 | 1996–2003 | Asiatic |
| Sprinter | AE91 | 1989–1992 | Japanese |
| Sprinter | AE100 | 1991–1995 | Japanese |
| Sprinter | AE110 | 1995–2000 | Japanese |
| Sprinter Marino | AE100 | 1992–1998 | Japanese |
| Vios | AXP42 | 2002–2006 | Chinese |
Thanks to high quality execution of the design, this motor is considered very successful. It is also well suited to repair work. Finding spare parts for this power plant is not a problem. The production of cars of the joint Japanese-Chinese venture Toyota and Tianjin FAW Xiali is carried out with these power plants under the hood to this day. They are installed on small cars such as Vela and Weizhi.
How is the engine doing in Russia?
Most domestic owners vehicles Toyota, which has an engine modification under the hood called 5A-FE, leaves positive ratings performance characteristics 5A-FE. They claim that the average engine life is 300 thousand km. Further operation of the vehicle is accompanied by an increase in oil fluid consumption. The valve stem seals should be replaced when the mileage reaches 200,000 km. Subsequent similar operations must be carried out at intervals of 100,000 km.
Many owners of Toyota, whose power plant is called 5A-FE, have encountered a problem that is felt in traction failures when driving at medium crankshaft speed. This occurs when low-quality Russian fuel is used, or there are problems in the power and ignition systems.
Disadvantages of the motor
Operation process power plants 5A-FE does not come without its drawbacks
- Beds mounted on camshafts are prone to increased wear.
- Fixed piston pin type.
- Difficulties arise when adjusting the intake valve clearances.
Despite this, major overhauls of this engine are rarely performed.
If it is necessary to replace the motor installation, it is quite easy to purchase a contract 5A-FE engine. Most of them are in good condition and the price is reasonable.
It is worth noting that Japanese contract engines were not operated in the territory Russian Federation. Japanese manufacturers are leaders in terms of the speed with which updates are made model series vehicles. This allows companies that dismantle spare parts to purchase vehicles. In which engines with a fair amount of service life are installed.
We bring to your attention the price list for a contract engine (without mileage in the Russian Federation) 5AF.E.